The Public Forum of The M+G+R Foundation
PURPOSE
The purpose of this Public Forum is to publicly respond to and/or
comment upon correspondence
that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal
interest
in these very unsettling times.
We reserve the right to choose what questions to address and how to
transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence
received.
The identity of the correspondent will be kept confidential except in
the
case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the
appropriate
responsible entities.
Letters/Questions - Addressed on
February 2007
From TK
@ USA
[Published
on February 28th]
Q.
Regarding the
news report (*) which we quote
below:
....beekeepers like Sundberg have a
mystery in their hives
this year. Bees are disappearing at an alarming rate.
"Colonies are going down. The bees aren't dead in the box or aren't
out front," says Jerry Bromenshenk, a bee researcher at the University
of Montana. "They've just disappeared. Just vanished."
Part of the mystery is that colonies can go from active and healthy to
dead and gone within days. For beekeepers, that's a loss that stings.
They "just disappeared," says beekeeper Louise Rossberg. "There's
nothing there. There's no bees on the ground anywhere. There's just a
completely empty hive."
In just a few weeks, Rossberg has seen hundreds of her hives go empty.
"I don't know what to do," she says. "And I'm not alone."
Does the disappearance of bees mean
anything?
Thanks
TK
A.The
environmental/zoological reason escapes us - but that
is not important at all - what is important is that such disappearance
is another communication channel that God is using to let us know
"where we are at". Read on...
Bee / Bee Hive
The bee
is symbolic of
tireless activity. It represents a good work ethic and being diligent
at it’s task. Because the worker bees are “virgins” it is
symbolic of virginity/chastity. Because the bee appears to
die in the winter and re-appear in the summer, it can symbolize
rebirth. The bee’s hard work is connected to the beehive,
which symbolizes order. The bee represents the Christian and
the beehive then symbolizes the church. Legend also suggests
that bees never sleep, thus it is a symbol of vigilance. (**)
If we tried we just could not make up
what we report and
announce... yet, How many people do believe us when we keep announcing
that the "party", as we know it, "is just about over" and continue to
call for prayer and penance as we have done before....
12 Now therefore saith the Lord:
Be converted to me
with all your heart, in fasting, and in weeping, and in mourning. 13
And rend your hearts, and not your garments, and turn to
the
Lord your God: for he is gracious and merciful, patient and rich in
mercy, and ready to repent of the evil. 14 Who knoweth but he
will return, and forgive, and leave a
blessing behind him, sacrifice and libation to the Lord your God? 15
Blow the trumpet in Sion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn
assembly, 16 Gather together the people, sanctify the church,
assemble
the
ancients, gather together the little ones, and them that suck at the
breasts: let the bridegroom go forth from his bed, and the bride out of
her bride chamber. 17 Between the porch and the altar the
priests the Lord's
ministers shall weep, and shall say: Spare, O Lord, spare thy people:
and give not thy inheritance to reproach, that the heathen should rule
over them. Why should they say among the nations: Where is their God? [Joel
2]
Brethren, when people ask:
What time
is it? We must respond:
It's
about that time!
________________________________________
(*) Full article on missing
bees:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/13/eveningnews/main2471672.shtml
(**) Quote source:
http://www.christiansymbols.net/animals_page3.htm
From WO
@ USA
[Published
on February 27th]
Q.
In reference
to your recent mailing (*)
about the alleged Tomb of Jesus.... Some
time ago it was pointed out to me that director James Cameron is
alleged to be a very high ranking Freemason and an occultist.
Unfortunately whatever links, "evidence" I had were mislaid long ago.
But if said allegation is even half true, it explains a lot.
To quote you: "How can the Faithful continue to put up with
the antics of the Roman Catholic Church Administration? Pray for their
conversion, indeed, but also stop every single financial assistance to
it. You will see how quickly they "convert" - they are quite responsive
to the prompting of their god - mammon."
Agreed - a thousand fold!!! But what are the faithful to do? While
I usually do not pull my inspiration from the "Opus Dei Channel"
(EWTN), this morning while watching their daily mass as I listened to
the OD cleric spew questionable advice to Catholic on how observe Lent,
an idea came to me. NO, not from anything this "priest" said, but from
the concept of "Lenten Almsgiving" which he touched upon. Of course,
he/they want you to give your money to them. But what came to me was
something far more of Christ & what He taught us.
Here is my idea: you know that $$$ which one would normally put in
the collection, or send to some alleged "Catholic charity"? How about
doing some REAL charity with it. Surely you know a friend or neighbor
who is having a hard time. An elderly person trying to live on nothing.
A single person out of work and luck. A family which can barely afford
to pay their utilities, car/house/credit card payments, and in danger
of losing everything?
Take that money which you would otherwise have put in the
collection........ place it in a plain envelope.... and quietly slip it
under their door in the middle of the night. Nobody will know that you
did it - as it should be! The recipient of this charity will not know
who gave it, and think (correctly) that it came from God - which, in
truth it did. Christ taught us to give to those who need - but in
secret. Not to seek a tax deduction, photo-op, praise, thanks, or even
dare to ever expect repayment. The amount is not important; the
intention is. For God sees all which we do in secret, as Christ told
us.
That is "Lenten Almsgiving"...... going straight
to those who need alms the most: that "neighbor" of whom Our Lord
spoke.
WO
A.
That is an excellent suggestion and it is very
rewarding. There are also other organizations which - if
known to be truly of God - one can assist financially with the
certainty that every penny will be well used.
For example -
Renewed Hope,
spearheaded by Ralph and and Roberta
Pippitt is one example. miguel de Portugal knew them very well
long before he was anointed as such. When miguel left the world they
were still part of it and he will never forget the last visit he had
with them. The next news he had of Ralph and Roberta was their Zimbabwe
project. If miguel now were in the position he was after
his conversion and his final response to God, ever single cent
donated would go to them.
But as WO suggests - look around for "your Zimbabwe" may be just around
your street corner.
(*) Referred to mailing follows:
Quote from News Report (1)
The burial site of Jesus has been found and suggests he had a wife
and son, according to highly sensitive claims in a documentary by
"Titanic" director James Cameron and Israel-born Simcha Jacobovici.
The claims inject controversy into the issue of resurrection
central to
Christianity and, if accurate, could reignite questions about Jesus'
earthy family life popularized in the book "The Da Vinci Code."
Cameron and Jacobovici, an award-winning documentary director,
said
their research suggested Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a son,
Judah.
and at the very bottom of the article we read:
Israeli archaeologist and professor Amos Kloner, who documented
the
tomb as the Jewish burial cave of a well-off family more than 10 years
ago, is adamant there is no evidence to support claims that it was
the
burial site of Jesus.
"I'm a scholar. I do scholarly work which has nothing to do with
documentary film-making. There's no way to take a religious story and
to turn it into something scientific," he told AFP in a telephone
interview.
"I still insist that it is a regular burial chamber from the 1st
century BC," Kloner said, adding that the names were a coincidence.
"Who says that 'Maria' is Magdalena and 'Judah' is the son of
Jesus? It
cannot be proved. These are very popular and common names from the 1st
century BC," said the academic at Israel's Bar Ilan University.
Comment
In the Portuguese daily 24 horas there
is a 3/4 page
article on this issue, slanted, of course to favor that the tomb was
really that of Jesus and family. That would be expected in a lay daily
in the much touted Catholic nation. What is not expected are the two
alleged quotes from a high profile member of the clergy:
(1) Rev. Armindo Vaz of the Discalced
Carmelite order and a
"profound" student of the Bible states: "That's nothing new."
and "Two years ago there was an identical situation and, as it is
expected, the Church position was prudent."
(2) He believes that the story may be "...an
excellent TV
documentary" and generate "some surprise and sensationalism in
certain sectors". Nonetheless, for "the tradition of the
Great
Church, the discovery of Jesus' tomb does not represent nothing new."
Assuming that he was quoted correctly -
and we have no reason to
doubt it from what we know "from the field" and NOT from post cards and
tourist brochures, our first question is:
Wash is order the Discalced Carmelites
or the DISGRACED Carmelites?
With our second question being:
How can the Faithful continue to put up
with the antics of the
Roman Catholic Church Administration? Pray for their conversion,
indeed, but also stop every single financial assistance to it. You will
see how quickly they "convert" - they are quite responsive to the
promptings of their god - mammon.
Remember - we are not talking about the
Faith, our position is
clear about the Pristine Catholic Faith - we are talking about the
clerical parasites about whom Jesus spoke
thus....
But
woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut
the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in;
and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter. [Matthew
23: 13]
Which was because...
If
God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I
proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: 43
Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my
word. 44 You are of your father
the devil,
and
the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him.
When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and
the father thereof. 45
But if I say the truth, you believe me not. [John
8: 42-45]
And that is why we label most
of them Spiritual Bastards
- not the sons of the One they claim to be their Father.
miguel
de Portugal
+ by the Grace of God
Note: For an
overview of our position in many areas pertaining the Faith and
theological issues Click
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(1) Full
News Report
From YDM
@ US
[Published
on February 25th]
Q. I saw the movie(Breach)(*), and it was great. He got his just desserts, and it only shows that nothing, even Opus Dei, is too much for God to step in.
Let us continue to "pray for the conversion of poor sinners" as Our Lady has requested at Fatima.
In His Mercy, Hannsen has much time to work out his salvation.
Praise be to Jesus.
YDM
A.
In just a few simple, but poignant lines, YDM has shown
why the Death Penalty is against the Will of God - under all
circumstances; and so is the termination of another human being's life.
Man will never know how grievous a transgression is to take another
human's life until the veil is crossed, and then, it will be too late
for many to make the appropriate reparation. We must remember
that when the veil is crossed, the rules are different.
(*) YDM is
referring to a mailing that went to our Select List and read as follows:
The movie
Breach will be earthshaking....
Opus Dei will be hard pressed
from recuperating from this one.
The DaVinci Code could be dismissed as a Fantasy Thriller,
"Breach"
will not be that easy to dismiss with Hansen behind bars as charged and
his boss and co-Opus Dei member, former FBI Director, Louis Freeh on
the loose.
You may want to review
http://www.mgr.org/DiaryOfASpy.html
which
probably is the foundation of the movie script.
Didn't He say:
17
For there is not any
thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall
not be known and come abroad. [Luke 8]
and
2 For
there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed: nor hidden, that shall not be known.
3 For whatsoever things you have spoken in darkness, shall be
published in the light: and that which you have spoken in the ear in
the chambers, shall be preached on the housetops. [Luke
12]
In the end they - Opus Dei - will
believe; however, it will be too late
for many for, didn't He also say:
48 But he that knew
not, and did things worthy of
stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is
given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed
much, of him they will demand the more. [Luke 12]
We do not make the rules... we just
remind the world of them.
m de P
From CH
@ New Zealand
[Published
on February 23rd]
Q.
A
few years ago, I started looking with some interest at ‘Bible Codes’. I
no longer pursue this interest.
Bible Codes are supposedly hidden
messages throughout the Bible in a form that can be used to cross
reference various texts to unlock messages and information.
It
convinced me that this was another band wagon that people could climb
aboard, while other made money supplying them with software to meet
their ‘needs’.
However,
an undeniable fact is that the gentleman that first ‘cracked’ or became
aware of this phenomenon accurately read the name of and exact date of
the death (assassination) of a prominent Middle Eastern political
figure uncovered in ‘Bible Codes’, in advance of the event. This was
well documented. This is what drew my interest in it.
Since
then, all and sundry have attempted to crack codes and read something
into the most obscure possibilities that this presents. Some of the
‘codes’ that are cracked are downright ridiculous and probably
inaccurate. It seems that anything can be found in these ‘codes’ using
this method.
It
DOES seem however, that there are some significant coincidences with
information extrapolated by this method and actual world events. Names
are also able to be found.
My
thinking on all this has evolved to a point that I believe that it is
quite possible that there are real hidden messages in the Bible in
addition to the main text as we read it. My belief is driven by my
limited knowledge on the creation of the Bible.
My
understanding is that the Old Testament and New Testament are of Divine
origin and that God instructed that they be written EXACTLY as he
instructed without one variation. (please remember that my knowledge of
the Bible is VERY limited, and I may be incorrect – please correct me
where appropriate).
This
being the case, it confirms that the complexity of the Bible, the
complexity of the structure of the Bible and the consistency of texts
could NEVER have been created by man – that the true Divine origin of
the Biblical texts is unquestionable. (of course most people with
Christian beliefs would think this anyway, but my background is
different ….) For me, it also raises the
possibility that the name of every human being that has ever lived and
ever will live is recorded in some way, somewhere in the Bible, and
possibly their spiritual destiny or fate.
I also believe that the Bible Codes
could of course, be used by people pushing their own agendas, good or
bad.
I am interested on your thoughts on
this
CH
A. miguel
de Portugal attests to the fact that there is far more in the Holy
Scriptures than appears on the straight reading of every line. Shortly
after - "shortly" being defined as just a few hours - from miguel's
"Yes" to God's request of (paraphrasing) "...leave all behind and
follow Me and serve Me.", the same Holy Scriptures he had become quite
familiar with in the prior six years, opened up in a most amazing
manner.
The best way it can be explained is: One is looking at the surface of a
crystalline coral reef rich body of salt water. One sees the surface
and maybe some tropical fish swimming just a few inches to a foot below
the surface, and, all of a sudden, one is able to focus on and see all
the horizontal planes of the body of water that lie below the surface,
all the way to the bottom. That is what miguel felt when the Holy
Scriptures were opened to him by God.
There is much, much
hidden information in the Holy Scriptures and we can quote the Bible
supporting such statement:
1 But at that time shall Michael
rise up, the great prince, who
standeth for the children of thy people: and a time shall come such as
never was from the time that nations began even until that time. And at
that time shall thy people be saved, every one that shall be found
written in the book.
2 And many of those that sleep in the dust of the earth, shall
awake: some unto life everlasting, and others unto reproach, to see it
always.
3 But they that are learned shall shine as the
brightness of the firmament: and they that instruct many to justice, as
stars for all eternity.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the
words,
and seal the book, even to the time appointed: many shall pass over,
and knowledge shall be manifold.
5 And I Daniel looked, and behold as it were two others stood:
one on this side upon the bank of the river, and another on that side,
on the other bank of the river. [Daniel
12]
This Grace is not only an exclusive
gift for miguel; one of our cooperators had verse 5 (above) illuminated
for him.... and then, for all since we published his communication in
the
Public
Forum on August 17, 2006.
We have extensively addressed the reality and coherence of the Biblical
texts in our documents Biblical Literalism
Part I and
Part II.
We
encourage the serious Faithful to review again both documents since
they will answer many of CH's questions and confirm some of his
statements.
You state that:
"An undeniable fact is that the gentleman that first
‘cracked’ or became
aware of this phenomenon accurately read the name of and exact date of
the death (assassination) of a prominent Middle Eastern political
figure uncovered in ‘Bible Codes’, in advance of the event. This was
well documented. This is what drew my interest in it."
We are not surprised since we know well how "inside information" is
being used to gain Prophet
status or a controlling-of-the-masses
status.
Nostradamus has been credited for many accurate predictions and many of
those "coincidences" may have been achieved through forced translations
or adjustment of historical events to suit the prediction; yet, others
have not. One "other that was not" is:
quatrain VI-37
"The ancient work shall
be accomplished
from the roof,
evil lightning
shall fall on a great man. Being dead, they will accuse an
innocent
man of the deed.
The guilty one hidden
in the misty copse."
Nostradamus quatrain 6-37
(also listed as quatrain VI-37
or VI.37
or 6,37 ) translated below according to the History Channel
show (emphasis added):
"The ancient work shall be accomplished
from the roof, evil lightning
shall fall on a great man. Being dead, they will accuse an
innocent
man of the deed. The guilty one hidden in the misty copse."
[According to linguists "misty copse" = "grassy knoll"]
This quatrain refers to
the
assassination of Kennedy.
Why do we know that this quatrain is accurate without having been
manipulated? Because the assassination of Kennedy, just like
the 9-11
Tragedy, were absolute requirements in the fulfillment of
"The ancient work shall
be accomplished
" which is nothing
more than the establishment of a
New
International World Order.
Why should individuals refrain from trying to peek into the future by
decoding the Bible, Nostradamus or DaVinci, for that matter?
We have addressed that issue extensively in our document:
DIVINATION
AND MIRACULOUS HEALINGS ...AND,
WHAT ABOUT GOD? - A Biblical
Synopsis
Therefore, your:
"I
no longer pursue this interest" is nothing more than acting upon
Divine Inspiration. May God be Praised for not abandoning His children;
His children who are
willing to listen and obey Him.
From MK
@ USA
[Published
on February 17th]
Q.
You have asked what we would
like to see posted. I have read your writings and find them
completely according to the same timing of understandings that have
been placed in my heart by Our Lord. One very big cross
that I carry, though, is that since my return to the Church, Our Lord
has enlightened me to see the changes that take place every day in the
Mass. As the smoke infiltrates His Church (and it's not
slowly) , the heaviness in my heart is sometimes
unbearable. Thanks be to God, He gives me His strength and I try
to make reparation and offer love back to Him. I cannot talk to
anybody about this, but I know you understand what I am saying. I
know the Mystical Body of Christ is in its
Gethsemane, and it is so painful. Here's the purpose
of why I am writing you:
1. Miguel, sometimes I cannot look at the
situation without being judgmental or is this fanaticism? There
are certain things I just cannot accept or follow. I
am told I must be obedient (the changes after Vatican II).
2. I know there are others out there that are seeing the same
things that I do. And, I know the time is coming where even
greater changes are going to take place. Can you prepare the
faithful on what to do. Could this be an ongoing section in
your domain, specifically pointing out the changes from modernism, etc.
and discussing how the remnant faithful can ban together (in each of
their Church's) to show the others that we will not succumb
There are so many areas.
Example:
I sit in the front row at daily Mass. As I go to receive Jesus, I
kneel. There is no effort on my part, if I wasn't held up I would
fall on my face in adoration of Our Lord. Not a "pious" act on my
part, but a total love for my Beloved. During the homily, the
priest looked at me and stated to the congregation any acts of piety
like kneeling are not tolerated. It separates us from others and
it not unifying. We are only allowed to bow as we come up so that
we are all alike and making others uncomfortable. He is very
strong on this and will is very upset that we set ourselves to be
better than the rest.
Of note: When the priest began
the consecration, two of the vessels with the wine, remained on the
side of the altar. His hands only extended over his
chalice. I couldn't believe it.
Nothing comes before my reverence to my
Lord. I pray that He gives me the strength to fight to the very
end.
MK
A. We
wish we could say something other than the situation will get worse.
Your feelings are shared by millions of true Catholics. The only
solution we
can offer is to look around for a Church which offers a reasonably
acceptable Mass. For example, in Houston, Texas, there was the
Dominican's Holy Rosary Parish, where Sunday Mass at 9 AM was Novus
Ordo but in Latin and the singing was provided by a group of men
intoning Gregorian Chants. In that Parish the kneeling rail was
kept and communion was received kneeling down at all Masses.
Another church was the Annunciation in downtown Houston. On Sunday
afternoons they offered the Tridentine Mass - after the ill attended (a
real embarrassment!) two hour period of adoration of the Blessed
Sacrament. In that same huge Metroplex there was only one
Perpetual Adoration chapel and miguel drove many, many miles a week to
frequent it. No complaints - at least we found one! The Faithful must
just look around.
What we are illustrating to do is - first of all, search high and low
because God may just have the Church you are looking for around the
corner; then, you must "make do" with what is available until it
becomes simply impossible to attend a Mass because it is no longer
offered in an appropriate manner.
Do not think that such is a US problem exclusively. You should
see what is
taking place in "Holy" Portugal, not to mention "Saintly" Spain. Post
cards and Tour Brochures do not tell the real story.... and neither
does The Vatican, but that, by now, should be known without saying.
One is not being judgmental when one evaluates the abuses and offenses
directed at our Lord. Hopefully we should know the difference between
what is correct and incorrect.
This "judgmental" issue has been spun for centuries to protect the evil
doers. We are not to judge a human being as evil or holy, for only God
knows the reality of that soul as well as its final destination -
Heaven or hell; however, God gave us a brain, Evangelization (for those
who were Blessed to receive and assimilate some reasonable portion of
it) and the Light of the Holy Spirit so that we can evaluate - using
His Word as the "measuring stick" - actions/behaviors. Thus we MUST
judge actions/behaviors and act accordingly.... with praying for the
offender
as the first
priority.
What to do in a Mass where the Faithful is forbidden to take communion
while kneeling? The communicant should genuflect just before taking the
communion standing up and offer to God, as an act of reparation,
having to have done so. To "make a scene" because one is not
allowed to kneel is completely out of place and a sign of wishing to
bring upon oneself everyone else's attention with the undercurrent
message of "I am holier than you!"
We recommend a review of several related documents that we have online
in the Name of God:
From RC
@ USA
[Published
on February 14th]
Q.
There is a saying that whenever God closes a door, he
opens a
window.
In the
end, whatever is the end result, it is a good thing.
Not only that, a lot of what
happens must happen in order for everything to turn out right.
RC
A. The
saying quoted, common as it is, is another insult to God. The truth is
that whenever God closes a door, He opens a wider one for our
benefit. It is man who, in defiance to the Will of God, "kicks a
window open" and ascribes such opening to God for cosmetic purposes.
Without a doubt, "...a lot of what happens must happen in order for
everything to turn out right."... that is exactly what
Pain is
the megaphone
that
God uses to assist the deaf in hearing Him is
all about.
Animals learn in a short time - like training a dog
not to soil the carpet. It takes man a lifetime plus Purgatorial time
to "get his act together". That is what Jesus came to help us
with; unfortunately
organized
religion
decided to "improve on Jesus".
The fools!
The choice is always ours and the level of pain we must go through in
Time
is always in our hands
but
most are so blind
that we cannot even see that!
From KMD
@ USA
[Published
on February 8th]
Q.
I have often thought about
this quote from Jesus...
21 Not every one that saith
to me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into
the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in
heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day:
Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in
thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23 And
then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:
depart from me, you that work iniquity. 24 Every one therefore
that heareth these my words, and doth
them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, 25
And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds
blew,
and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a
rock. [Matthew 7]
...and I have wondered how I can live so Jesus doesn't say to me
at the Last Judgment, "Depart from me."
Do you have any suggestions to your readers? Thank you for your time.
A. Jesus will never deny the members of His Family who He
clearly defined for us:
50 For whosoever
shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother,
and sister, and mother. [Matthew
12]
Now, being that life in Time
is
a
Journey back to the Father, we must clarify the fact that no one
can fully do the will of
the Father. However, on the Day of Judgment we will be judged
on how hard we sincerely
tried to do the Will of the Father by overcoming our miseries and
failings. God reads our hearts and He will know if we are really trying
to do so out of love for Him or just for appearances sake.
Those who have done it for appearances sake are the ones that He will
not recognized even if they sat in the front pew of the church for Mass
seven days a week, 52 weeks a year.
We should strive with all our heart to serve God and not worry about
Salvation since it will come as a natural consequence of our love for
God and our sincere service to Him.
Through two degrees miguel studied very had to learn the subject matter
of every course he registered for - not to get good grades but to
learn; logically, good grades "just happened" as the logical
consequence of studying hard to learn. It is all the same.
From Initials
Withheld
@ USA
[Published
on February 4th]
Q. I am
shaken up by the math
you outlined in your response to JC in
the Public
Forum of January 27. You are getting about 40,000 visitors
per month to
your site (which I assume includes repeat visitors), yet this world has
6.5 billion people in it.
The logical conclusion is that only a
tiny fraction are saved, and THAT THE MAJORITY ARE NOT.
There
is a Bible verse the exact reference of which I am not sure, but it
ponders, "What if God created some people only to be
destroyed?" This
is not in keeping with the God of the New Testament, but sounds very
much like the no nonsense God of the Old Testament where thousands were
slaughtered time and time again. It never sounded like those
people
were saved, but I am not sure they were sent to Hell, either. I am
aware both Gods are One and The Same.
I know you answered the question of
JC and you did it well, but I am looking for "wiggle room" for
these people.
Your
analysis points to the fact that a tiny portion are in the Book of
Life, and that the rest are in Hell to suffer eternally. Is there
any
chance that the wicked simply die and do not suffer eternal fire?
What
I am getting at is that the reward for doing God's Will is to be with
God for Eternity. It has never made me feel happy to see my
enemies
suffer. Seeing their pain has never made me feel better, even
when
they probably deserved what they got.
From
your analysis, all souls have Eternal Life, it is just that some spend
it with God and others never see God but see Hell forever.
What is missing in my analysis?
Am I being too kind?
Initials Withheld
A. Perhaps
you have read far more into that particular response than it contained.
First of all, although someone may now know with great accuracy the
schedule for
the
Apocalyptic Events for the End of These Times (see the
response to LP on January 29th below) no one should even consider
estimating the number of names in the Book of Life - that would
certainly be amongst the last things that miguel de Portugal would try
to project. All we can refer to is what we find in the Holy
Scriptures, for example in Revelations 9 we read:
18 And by these
three plagues was slain the third part of men, by the fire and by the
smoke and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Those deaths are the result the three
plagues alone; there are other death dealing threats in the Book of
Revelations.
The number of Domain traffic we quoted are single individuals - that is
- if
one individual
visits the Domain
twenty
times a month, it would be
counted
as only one. Many visitors circulate the pages (this will only
count as one document); others print the pages and pass them around
(this will also only count as one document). Therefore, we have
no idea how many individuals read
the
documents in The
M+G+R Foundation
Domain.
We do know that we have visitors from over 103 different countries. In
addition, many years ago we received a permission request to translate
a lengthy document into Tamil and publish it in printed form. How many
have been translated, printed and circulated without requesting us for
permission, only God knows and, really, that is His business for so are
we.
There are billions who do not know Jesus as the result of the failed
Evangelization effort led by the
Successors
of Peter plus those who
have rejected God as the result of the abuses of the Administrators of
organized religion. Those
are
not automatically hell bound. They will
suffer
a great deal and
the "invoice" for said sufferings will be presented to
those who could
have assisted them in some way in seeing the Light, yet, did not.
48 But he that knew not, and did things
worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto
whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom
they have committed much, of him they will demand the more. [Luke 12]
God has made special arrangements for the salvation of those "
that knew not" - even though they
will have to acknowledge Jesus as their Savior. We know the highlights
of said arrangements - thus we are quite sure of it.
The above information should be sufficient to automatically address the
remainder questions and concerns.
We thank the writer for the opportunity to address these Universal
concerns.
From LP
@ USA
[Published
on January 29th]
Q. It is a logical impossibility
that ANYONE could predict the date of the Return of Christ. What are
you thoughts on this matter?
LP
A. Going
back to the Word of God as the only fountain of recorded revealed Truth
we find:
In Matthew 24 we read:
34 Amen I say to you, that this generation
shall not pass, till all these things be done.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass.
36 But of that day and
hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.
37 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also
the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they
were eating and
drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which
Noe entered into the ark,
39 And they knew not till the flood came,
and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man
be.
In Mark 13 we read:
32 But of that day or hour no man knoweth,
neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know
not when the time is.
First of all we must realize that, when
Jesus Christ returns, it will be simultaneously for everyone in the
planet. In which case - It will occur at 24 different hours spanning
two different dates. Thus,
there is not one fixed day
and time. Nonetheless, those who need to know "close enough" will know
just as Noah did - he knew
exactly when he and his family needed to move into the ark.
As to
"... neither the angels in
heaven, nor the Son..", this could raise - and has in the past -
a question about the Divinity of Jesus. As we have pointed out in our
documents Biblical Literalism -
Part
I and
Biblical Literalism -
Part
II, we must spiritually understand what we read. When Jesus spoke
thus
He was in the flesh - and just like any man [except in sin] in Time,
thus He would not know; thus, this lack of knowledge had nothing to do
with His Divine Status.
But what about
"... neither the
angels in heaven..." someone may ask? The way we see this
is that the angels - when working with man in the Time frame like, for
example, Raphael [in the Book of Tobias] or one's Guardian Angel - may
not know it for the same reason that Jesus did not nor we do.
What is really important is that we, like Noah, be spiritually
sensitive to the times and prepare for it; i.e. building our Arc and
inviting to it those around us by helping them see the signs and, above
all, by the example we give with our lives.
Sometimes "Man thinks too much, and yet, not enough...."
Thank you for the opportunity to address this issue.
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