The M+G+R Foundation Public Forum

The purpose of this Public Forum is to publicly respond to and/or comment upon correspondence that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal interest in these very unsettling times.

From RC @ USA - Published on September 30th, 2007

In reference to your mailing... (1)

Today's Gospel Reading [Luke 16: 19-31] reminds us why most will not believe you.

The rich man did not "get it" since he was not a Child of God. God's Children can hear Him when He calls. God's Children are not without fault, but when the time comes, they will get the message, if for no other reason than God insists that they do; whatever it takes, God will get them to listen.

In the case of the rich man and his brothers, not only did he and they ignore Moses and the prophets, but truly, they would not have believed even if a man rose from the dead to tell them the truth.

The rich man and his brothers would insist that the risen man was "not a face they recognized" and that that same man lived in "an alternate reality."

God either gives one the light or He condemns one to the darkness. If God will not give one the Grace to see, it will not happen.

For the Children of God, they know, not believe, that Miguel is right. The end of Our Times is anticlimactic at this point. We know enough to know how it ends, the details are best left to God.

Peace and Best wishes!

RC

A. You stated: "...whatever it takes, God will get them to listen." That is indeed the case since "Pain is the megaphone that God uses for the deaf to hear" and, as we have stated many times, to minimize the suffering of the Elect (i.e. reduce "whatever it takes") is one of our functions. The faster the slumbering Elect wake up, the less they will suffer.

We take this opportunity to give more light to the referenced Gospel which will underscore the fact that "If God will not give one the Grace to see, it will not happen."

The parable in question [Lazarus and the rich man] is the only parable where the main character has a name - Lazarus. Now, let us highlight a specific quotation from said parable: "And he (Abraham) said to him (the dead rich man): If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead."

Now, let us "fast forward" to the Gospel according to John, Chapters 11 and 12. Jesus raised a dead and already decomposing Lazarus almost at the gates of Jerusalem. There were many witnesses and many people were converted when they witnessed Lazarus resurrection. A little later we see that Jesus dined with Lazarus and sisters in His way to Jerusalem where He would be crucified in about six days.

In spite of the astonishing miracle He had performed at the gates of Jerusalem, He was crucified because "... neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead."

Perfect Divine coherence in the Holy Scriptures.

Thank you for the opportunity to Glorify God.

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(1) The mailing....

Quote fron news report:

KADENA AIR BASE, Japan (AP) — While the U.S. has been tied up in Iraq, China is modernizing its military and its air defenses are now nearly impenetrable to all but the newest of American fighters, the senior U.S. military official in Japan said.

Lt. Gen. Bruce Wright, commander of the roughly 50,000 U.S. forces in Japan, Washington's biggest ally in Asia, said in an interview with The Associated Press this week that the Iraq war is reducing the availability of U.S. troops and equipment to meet other contingencies.

It's also eating funds that could go toward replacing or upgrading planes that are being pushed to their operational limits, he said.

Comments:

Just exactly as has been planned by the enemies of the US - who lie within it and about which Mr. Bush is completely ignorant. It is sad to see a human being - any human being - be so blatantly manipulated and made fun of on a world wide scale.

Let us continue to pray....

PS One day - when is too late - most will realize that when we encouraged prayer as "the only thing left to do" - we were also right.

News report: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jw3wdrz2Xcr0w6_08h5xoTucdQXwD8RV07F01

From WO @ USA - Published on September 29th, 2007 [Feast of Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael]

May Christ bless you!

In re your new document of 9/26 (1), among other things, what struck me is that we need to be very careful when we recite the words of the Creed - Apostle's or that of the Council of Nicea. If I am in any way wrong in what I say here, please do correct me!

Specifically the phrase:" ....and I believe in one, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church (Nicene) or 'the holy Catholic church' (Apostle's)". I think that one must be very careful in uttering or mentally praying this. One must understand this as being "catholic" (lower case 'c', meaning the one universal church founded by Jesus & loyal to Him)....... NOT as "Catholic" (upper case "C") meaning the man-made organization run amuck, heaquartered in the Vatican - complete with its EENS so-called 'dogma". To understand and believe what we are praying here in these phrases as belief in the Faith........ not "the "Church". These phrases, drilled into our heads since childhood are spiritual/theological "tiger traps"!

On a related point (and I am NOT a Latin or Greek scholar!) in a TV presentation given by some Protestant minister, the point was made that the word "church" did not exist in the time of Christ; but the Latin word "ecclesia" (and its Greek root) did. There would seem to be a big difference between the two words/concepts. "Church" has its roots in German & Scandinavian languages ( i.e. kirk, kirche = church)...... which refers to both a physical building and to an "assembly"; which is the common understanding of the term in reference to a group/organization. On the other hand ":Ecclesia" (the word uttered by Christ) in its Greek root means something completely different. My understanding is that it means "out-calling" or "ones called out....... selected". "It is not too much of a stretch to see how this can be perceived to mean, by extension, "the Elect".

Therefore, if what I understand is correct (and explained properly here) this serves to reinforce what you have said about "the Rock" and the rest of the words which Our Lord spoke to Peter........ which have been misappropriated to refer to the Vatican. There is a big difference between what we call "the church" being the ones "called out from among men by God"........ and "an assembly....... building........ organization...... hiearchial structure....... multi-billion dollar/multinational money machine". Of course if you look in a dictionary you will find that "ecclesia" (and all of its grammatical offshoots) are claimed now to refer to "church". How utterly diabolical!

You remain in my daily prayers.

WO

A. Thank you for the opportunity to address this issue as well as for your prayers. We are neither Latin nor Greek scholars but - in general terms - we agree with your "church" word analysis.

Now - to the point. We have not prayed the Nicean Creed for some time because, as we may have written years ago, it is theologically incorrect. It denies the Trinity. On the other hand, the Apostles Creed is essentially flawless and that is the Creed we pray with only one small change.

Where it reads "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints...." we have changed it to "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Faith (2), the communion of saints....". Today's common usage dictates that when we say "Catholic Church" it basically means the "Roman Catholic Church Administration" and in them we certainly do not believe as we have made crystal clear. (3)

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(1) See posting below dated September 27th as well as The Game Plan
(2) Our full endorsement of the key and basic tenets of the Catholic Faith
(3) Our Position about the Roman Catholic Church Administration - Part I and Part II

From KD @ USA - Published on September 28th, 2007

In reference to your Points to Ponder posting (1) dated September 27th:

I have spent much time in my life following a few college and professional teams. This question may be pointless, since the hour is late, but, what's your recommendation for following amateur or professional squads?

Thank you.

Sincerely,

KD

A. In this situation like in most - religiosity included - the evil lurking is the "excess" and that can only be determined by the individual in question through an honest introspective evaluation. Practicing and/or following sports can be very rewarding and so can be a glass or two of wine with a meal.... now, a whole bottle.... that is another story.

A tasty pastry can be a treat, in excess it will lead to serious illnesses, etc., etc.

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify this point.
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(1) The posting in question follows:

In the introduction of Karl Marx's work Contribution to Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right one can read what is probably his most quoted phrase: "Religion is the opium of the people" .

Since communism was intrinsically atheist, do you ever wonder what was used to replace religion so that the people would remain under the influence of some other "opium"?

Sports! and it spread far and wide. [Can't you hear satan cackling? he did it again and men fell for it!]

From BK @ USA - Published on September 27th, 2007 [Mary, Protector of Orphans and First Day of Sokkot - [Feast of Tabernacles] ]

I am having a difficult time accepting that what we were taught as children, that through the Catholic Church is the only way to Heaven, is erroneous. What ever happened to the EENS dogma? Is that also in error?

BK

A. Before answering the questions What ever happened to the EENS dogma? Is that also in error? we had to look up what the EENS dogma was since we were not aware of such term. To say anything else, would be lying and that is not part of God's teachings although one would think otherwise from what we have witnessed for over 1600 years.

This is what we found out:

The Latin phrase Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), means: "Outside the Church there is no salvation".

This expression comes from the writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the third century. The axiom is often used as short-hand for the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church which asserts that the Catholic Church is absolutely necessary for salvation. The theological basis for this doctrine is founded on the Catholic beliefs that (1) Jesus Christ personally established the Catholic Church, according to the Catholic interpretation of Matthew 16:18; and, (2) that the Church serves as the means by which the graces won by Christ are communicated to believers. (1)

We have fully addressed this issue in our document Dominus Iesus (2). However - to sum it up: There is indeed salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church!

What kind of god would place such condition on any of his creatures considering the track record of the Administration of said church? (3)

Would the Roman Catholic Church Administrators accept the liability then for the results of a failed Evangelization? (4) After all - the True and Living God is indeed all powerful and, just as Don Bosco's (5) Evangelization effort was such a roaring success that even the enemies of Rome wanted him to spread his work in anticlerical Italy, Rome could have done it if they would have not started serving mammon instead of the True and Living God when Constantine purchased (6) the Roman Church.

Therefore - It is to Rome's advantage to "spread the blame" rather than to assume it de facto as the embodiment of the only means to Salvation. They already have their hands full with trying to justify before the Throne of Judgment why they, through blatant inaction, were accessories (7) of the greatest holocaust humanity has ever endured - World War II.

Once again - let no one forget that we make a clear distinction between the Catholic Faith (8) and the Roman Catholic Church Administration. (9)

Let us not forget how that such a dichotomy is possible: Even satan must serve God and the True and Living God would not abandon His children at this very critical time in the history of Creation - thus He ensured that we had access to the supernatural assistance provided by the Holy Sacraments. (10)

Thank you for the opportunity.

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(1) Source
(2) Dominus Iesus
(3) An overview of the Papacy
(4) What Went Wrong? Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV
(5) Don Bosco proved it could be done against all odds!
(6) Constantine - not the successor of Peter - presided over the Holy Nicean Council
(7) The disobedience of Rome cost the world over 50 million deaths
(8) Our full endorsement of the key and basic tenets of the Catholic Faith
(9) Our Position about the Roman Catholic Church Administration - Part I and Part II
(10) The Sacraments and the Graces associated with them - an example.

From LP @ USA - Published on September 23rd, 2007

Within the last few days, I had a hunch - please correct me if I am wrong - that the content (and promises) contained in the Divine Instructions (1) and Encouragement apply both to the present life and to the life to come, with Christ in His Kingdom.

Thus, even if (for some of us) our earthly time is short, the promises will still be kept ... in the world to come. (Some, of course, will see many of the promises realized while they are still on earth.)

LP
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(1) Divine Instructions

A. That is exactly the way it is. The moment we undergo a conversion of heart (and nourish it through prayer and striving to live His Word) our Eternal Life actually starts in the flesh.

From that point on it is a continuing spiritual ascendance that continues after we shed the body. After having entered Eternal Life while in in Time, the shedding of the body is just another transition in our journey to the Light - God.

Death of the body is "The End" for those who have not entered Eternal Life while in it. Even if that conversion is a fraction of a second before death - it will be considered as having entered Eternal Life while in Time. That is exactly what Jesus meant via the parable in Matthew 20: 1-15

From LP @ USA - Published on September 19th, 2007

Suppose that you knew when the Sequence would start, and what events would comprise it.

What if you did this beforehand:

A. If a move by the US or one of its allies is to be the trigger, send a letter (private or in the open) to the relevant government authorities, saying something like this:

1. We know that you have planned to do [describe the plan with as much detail as you have] on [date].

2. Do not do it!

3. Your plan will fail, for these reasons [list them] and will lead to a devastating attack on the US and its allies by [ name the enemies ] during which they will [describe in detail].

4. If you do what you intend, the result will not be a victory for the US and its allies, but a rapid and devastating defeat for us, at the hands of [name]. Is this what you want to happen?

B. If a strike by an enemy of the US is to be a trigger, then say what you know about the name of the attacker, his strategy, his tactics, and his aims: to enable US and allied forces to blunt or mitigate the event, if possible. You could also write to the enemies in question, telling them something like the contents of note "A" above.

An idea for you to consider ... and it would close the case for an "I told you so" note after The Day.

LP

A. Thank you for writing and offering those suggestions. Your letter opens the door to our explaining matters that have been left unsaid up to now.

As most have noticed - we have a mantra like statement: "Mankind cannot stop what is going to take place, however, the power to minimize the suffering is in our hands."

We have also explained in simple intellectual and Biblical terms the function of The M+G+R Foundation (1) and of miguel de Portugal (m de P) (2), respectively. We will do it now in a parable form hoping that it would be clearer - then we will address your suggestions.

miguel de Portugal could be seen as a: Cheer Leader and Square Dance Caller with the script for both functions given to him by God. All the efforts (public and behind the scenes) are directed so that the above mantra like statement becomes more of a concrete reality.

Regarding specific dates....

Let us say that m de P knows when Step No. 1 and Step No. 17 (3) will take place - if things continue as they are. Let us say that, for example, whomever may know the date of the Miracle (4) (Step No. 7) has a date for such event that is beyond the date m de P is currently aware of for Step No. 17 (for this example we are assuming that God has not changed the revealed date for the Miracle because it will be used by His enemies (5) to better introduce the False Christ (6)). On the surface it may appear that one or the other has to be wrong because the Miracle obviously has to come before Step No. 17. The truth is that neither is conceptually wrong.

The surface appearance but it has nothing to do with the supernatural reality which we are about to share with you now.

m de P, because of his above illustrated function (Cheer Leader and Square Dance Caller) may know a current date in the Time Framework. The individual who is supposed to announce "X" days before the Miracle takes place knows the date for the Miracle in the Eternal Framework. Yet, they are at odds. Why?

As we have explained elsewhere - Mary - Who lives in Eternity - knew that Her requests would be ignored by the Church (7) and World War II would take place - yet, She requested that if "this" and "that" (8) was done, according to the given timetable, those horrors would not take place. Why?

Just as Her Son divested Himself of His Divinity as He assumed a human body, She divested Herself from Her knowledge of Eternity and was speaking to us within the Time Framework. (9) Why?

Divine Mercy demands than mankind is given the necessary warnings to avert what will take place so that he has the opportunity to affect the date and severity of the events that will unfold. We can witness that Divine methodology starting from the Book of Genesis all the way through the Book of Revelations. Do you think that God did not know that Eve was going to fall for satan's snare? (10)

Therefore - miguel de Portugal's function is not to reveal dates, his function is that by "Cheer Leading and Square Dance Calling" we can delay those dates that he may be aware of, within the Time Framework, or compress the time (11) between one Step and the next . Has he done it? Thanks be to God, he has had more than enough confirmation from God about the many date alterations and time span compression achieved - otherwise, how do you think he could have kept on going in this "desert" for sixteen years? For the donations? Ha! For the honor before man? Ha!

That most people do not believe him? That many claim that he is living a "Alternate Reality"?

Rest assured, he loses no sleep over that, although he sheds many tears as he sees that every single effort from God and Mary are rejected. Just as he can feel the indescribable joys from Heaven, he can feel how such persistent blindness causes Them suffering. We assure you, few have had an idea of true sorrow, which is, to be able to see/feel the results of rejecting the of Goodness of God and when the solicitude of Mary is turned into a selling-of-religious-items orgy. Whenever he mystically focuses in the early years of Fatima - as we have summarized elsewhere (8) - the result is always the same - tears of sorrow for Jesus and Mary for the grave offenses that They have endured as every one of their loving Fatima-related efforts was trampled upon.

Mankind will have an opportunity to feel that - and we assure you, many will not make it through the Warning (12); it will be that heart wrenching (13).

Now - back to the questions/suggestions posed by LP.

In addition of the non published behind the scenes warnings that we have issued - of which our unpublished files are brimming full - anyone could take a look at the sampling of those which we now have on line.

One final clarification - God forbids man to "read the future in detail" for the reasons and consequences which have also explained at length. (14)

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(1) The function of The M+G+R Foundation
(2) Who is miguel de Portugal
(3) The Sequence of Steps Leading to the End of These Times
(4) The Miracle
(5) The commandeering of dates revealed by Heaven
(6) The staging for the False Christ
(7) How the Roman Catholic Church Administration brought upon humanity World War II
(8) Fatima chronology
(9) How to better understand the difference between Time and Eternal Time frames
(10) In the beginning...
(11) "...but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened." [Matthew 24:22]
(12) The Warning
(13) A personal warning
(14) About Fortune Tellers and the like

From WS @ USA - Published on September 15th, 2007 [Memorial of Our Lady of Sorrows]

I just wanted to send you an article of a friend of mine that was in the National Catholic Reporter in the early nineties - "A deeper clerical problem than sex - disbelief in life after death" by William J. Freburger. (1)

He has since passed away but when I read it at the time and read it again and again, it strikes at the root of today's “luke warmness” of my church and points to the struggle of the Church to keep the true message of Jesus, my Lord and Redeemer and the belief in the “communion of saints …the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.”

Amen!

WS

A. Thank you for sharing the article. It actually prompted our recent posting (Sept. 14th) in the Points To Ponder (2) page.

As you can ascertain from that posting, the problem is even deeper than "disbelief in life after death" - the problem is no Faith at all. Anyone who truly believes in God must, by definition, believes in life after death since I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. [Matthew 22:32]

It is interesting to note that the date of the article is 1993 - long before the sexual abuse scandal broke out i the U.S. None of this, however, should surprise us for it was Jesus Who told Francis, at Assisi, in the 13th century to "repair His Church" . As the saying goes "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" so obviously the Church was already quite broken by then. (3)

The luke warmness has also been around for too long, and spread far too wide, due to the lack of faith of those who were entrusted to Evangelize the World. Don Bosco (4) reminded them that the "Jesus formula" still worked, even in the worse of circumstances, but they did not want to hear it.

As we have said (yelled from the top of cyberspace) it was in the hands of the believers (5) to turn the the ship around - now, all we can hope to do is to minimize the suffering that God will allow upon the world - as a last resort - to help the deaf hear (6) !

Once again, thank you for writing.

Many continued Blessings!

The M+G+R Foundation

P.S. Perhaps you can give one step in that direction telling anyone who is willing to hear it that it is OUR Faith - and not only yours, and OUR Lord - and not only yours. In the Kingdom of God (7) there is no room for elitism... a message that somehow was lost in Escriva, just as he somehow lost the rest of the Good News. (8)

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(1) Original article
(2) Points to Ponder - September 14th
(3) Francis of Assisi and Pope Innocent III
(4) The stellar trajectory of St. John Bosco - An impossible dream made into a reality.
(5) How we must cooperate in the redemption of mankind.
(6) Pain is the megaphone that God uses for the deaf to hear.
(7) The Kingdom of God and Its Keys
(8) The fallacy of Opus Dei fundamental theology.

From YDM @ USA - Published on September 12th, 2007

Please forgive my ignorance, but did the papal excommunication of Scotland cause the loss of those souls, as said by SB from USA on Public Forum II of 1 September (1)? 

I would think not, so please forgive me and instruct me.

YDM

A. The only action that would need our forgiveness is the thought of "knowing it all". Your question/concern is most valid and to answer valid questions regarding the Faith and other relevant supernatural matters is part of our function. (2)

The answer to your question is "No".

That was precisely the point being illustrated by the writer. If a man - any man - has no power to save our condemn a soul, as we have explained before (3), much less a whole nation by men steeped in sin (4). To pretend so, as the Vatican does (5), is against the core teachings of Christianity (6) which they pretend to uphold. Such pretensions (7) is what caused the Evangelization entrusted to them to fail so miserably.

The pristine Catholic Faith (8) reached us not because of them but in spite of them and for the Glory of God Almighty Who is not about to abandon His Elect (9) at the most difficult time since the times described in the Book of Genesis (10).

May God have Mercy on them! (11) - If there is one group of human beings who needs Mercy is the leaders of organized religion with the Roman Administrators (12) at the lead.

We thank you for writing.
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(1) Public Forum II
(2) About The M+G+R Foundation
(3) The key lies in the Book of Life
(4) The Truth About Some Popes
(5) There IS Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church
(6) The TRUE and ONLY Foundation of Faith
(7) The Infallibility Claim
(8) The most complete Faith - the Catholic Faith
(9) Who are His Elect?
(10) In the beginning.... and then Cain married someone....
(11) Mercy In Action
(12) About the Administrators of the Roman Catholic Church

From BB @ USA - Published on September 7th, 2007

"Plans to allow British scientists to create human-animal embryos are expected to be approved tomorrow by the government's fertility regulator. The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority published its long-awaited public consultation on the controversial research yesterday, revealing that a majority of people were "at ease" with scientists creating the hybrid embryos.

Researchers want to create hybrid embryos by merging human cells with animal eggs, in the hope they will be able to extract valuable embryonic stem cells from them. The cells form the basic building blocks of the body and are expected to pave the way for revolutionary therapies for diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and even spinal cord injuries."

The LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them." [Gen 11:6]
How many souls will be swept up and lost to the enticement of "progress" at the expense of our growing alienation from God. I wonder how far God will allow this to go on.

BB

A. Fortunately, not very long (1).

Unfortunately many people think that we are being pessimistic (2) and others think that we are living an alternative reality.

If we had existed on or about 1929 (3) we would have also spoken up then as loud and as clear (of course, it was not m de P's time yet). People would have said that we were pessimistic and others that we were living in an alternate reality.... until September 1, 1939.

By December 7th, 1941 they would have become convinced that the "alternate reality" was "reality" and that they were living a "denial reality" (4).

By the time Japan was "transfigured" on August 6th, 1945, it would have been too late. (5)

Fortunately - our September 1, 1939 to August 6th, 1945 equivalent period has been reduced to just one hour. [Rev. 18:10] Progress, we presume...

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(1) It's about that time! - Thanks be to God!
(2) Is miguel de Portugal being pessimistic?
(3) The requests from Heaven were ignored by the Vatican
(4) The consequences of man's favorite past time: Denial
(5) Key World Wars I and II dates

From Initials Withheld @ USA - Published on September 4th, 2007

There are some writers - liberals, libertarians, and traditionalists - who are sounding the warning about an imminent US attack on Iran. Some names: Justin Raimondo, Eric Garris, and their colleagues; Lew Rockwell and his colleagues; Sean-Paul Kelley, Ian Walsh, and their colleagues; Paul Craig Roberts; and Arthur Silber and his colleagues. They understand the seriousness of the times, and are giving a (non-religious) warning to the best of their ability.

I am grateful for their work, and salute their courage. Some of these individuals are facing much trial (i.e., illness, job upheaval, other personal crises). I would request a general prayer of intercession for them (and if appropriate, a prayer of reparation for them as a group.) I have prayed for them tonight, and the best thing I can think of to do to help them is to ask you to pray (at least once) for them, too.

Kyrie eleison!

Initials Withheld

A. Let us pray.... and then, pray some more.

From GMcC @ Australia - Published on September 1st, 2007 [First Saturday of Reparation]

Thank you for this message(1). However I have never worked out the difference between FAITH and TRUST. Through common usage these terms appear to have become interchangeable.

How then do you define each of them.

Go with God.

GMcC

A. The best way to illustrate the difference is utilizing a very concrete example.

Mary delivered a very clear and concise message in Fatima. A Message accompanied by an awesome Miracle that even the non believers had to acknowledge.

If the Roman Church Administrators had any Faith in God, they would have acted in a manner that the Trust placed upon them by the Faithful would have been warranted, since the blood letting of World War II would have been prevented. Instead, their lack of Faith proved to anyone who has Eyes to See and Ears to Hear that they were AND are not Trustworthy.

It is that simple.

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(1) Message in question:

Our Lord Jesus Christ encourages us and teaches us thus....
Wait to hear My Will and then obey. At all costs obey.

Do not fear. I am a wall of protection around you. See this. To see this with the eyes of faith is to cause it to manifest in the material.

Remember I long to work miracles, as when on earth I wrought them, but the same condition holds good. I cannot do many mighty works because of unbelief.

So only in response to your belief can I do miracle-works now.

The M+G+R Foundation

September 2007