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From IC @ Philippines -
on November 27th, 2007 [Feast of Our Lady of
Miraculous Medal (Paris)]
Thank you for answering my query in
the Private Forum dated November 25th (1).
Obviously you had been urged by God to do so. I say obviously because
you had addressed this question over a year ago in the Public
Forum dated September 4th (2).
I consider this a happy circumstance as "the hour is late" (3) and God sees fit to remind us once again about the
dangers of idolatry, dangers that you all pointed out are too easy to
fall prey to.
Also, it highlights something which Miguel and you all frequently refer
to: coherence. God (and by extension those who do His
will) never contradicts Himself. (4)
If there are those of us who regularly visit the site need proof, I
would consider this one. Also, if God allows, I would still love to
hear about Miguel's examples someday.
You all remain in my prayers. May our
Lord continue to bless and guide you all.
Yours in Christ.
Private Forum November 25th, 2007
(2) Public Forum September
(4) It's About That Time
Key Is - Coherence
From RH @ US -
on November 25th, 2007 [Feast of Christ The King]
In reference to your recent mailing..... (1)
God's Peace be upon us all!
is real tragedy happening on the only Christian (or Catholic) country
I was there recently totaling for more than two years on a
business trip. My sense is that the problem is because of the
I notice also this poor economic conditions among heavily
"christianized" countries with such severe degree of religious
In the US, because of this growing fanaticism, we are
starting to see the degradation of our economic conditions.
more for the speedy coming of Christ and a Green Apocalypse before His
Compounding our failure to industrialize at the same time and to the
same extent as our neighbors was our premature and accelerated embrace
of free trade and globalization, ironically also under President Ramos,
with the legislative support of then Senator Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, both
under the influence of Opus Dei economists Jesus Estanislao and
There is something obscene, even comical, about a country that
cannot even produce its own door hinges, enthusiastically embracing
free trade and globalization even ahead of such emerging industrial
giants as South Korea and Taiwan.
To make matters worse, the Roman Catholic Church continued
and continues to forbid the use of artificial methods of birth control,
a diktat that is largely ignored by the upper and middle classes,
but still carries weight among the lower classes, who are multiplying
like tilapias, and who are the least able to afford the many children
that they continue to have.
From RC @ US -
on November 22nd, 2007 [U.S. Thanksgiving Day]
One may always count on Opus Dei's
influence to merge their
Delirium Tremens with the Delirium for a greatness that does not, and
will never exist for them.
Then, ultimately the blame falls on
the Catholic FAITH instead of falling where it belongs - the Roman
Catholic Church Administrators for a failed Evangelization effort in
of the fact that God managed to maintain the Faith pure.
For a refresher on their flawed "theology" visit http://www.mgr.org/odfallacy.html
Blessings to you today!
Ostensibly today is the day that the US gives thanks. My
is that we should give thanks every day to God (1) for Him and for allowing
each of us to live. We should accept the good with the bad.
Christ (2) spent
33 years walking the earth to give us an example of
humility, patience, charity and courage. He came to lead the way
set an example. Every moment He was here He petitioned the Father
our behalf for our redemption.
There is no greater love than that of God for mankind. It is
pity that we so seldom reflect on the true nature of our being.
It is amazing how deferential, if not obsequious, we are to those
in power, or with riches and fame (4), and yet we ignore Jesus
Tabernacle or insult Him repeatedly.
Today's reading tells of a man who was cured by Jesus and wanted
to join him in thanks. But no, Jesus told him to go home and tell
all. He probably told him to live an exemplary life, or perhaps
man out of gratitude, did so.
Not all of us can be priests or religious, but we can still be
God calls each of us to do a special task meant for us alone.
All of us can lead by example, as Jesus did.
Jesus said, and you have repeated, God does not want sacrifice,
nor special Masses, nor fanfare, etc. God wants us to show Mercy,
He has shown Mercy. (6)
It is REALITY, that God has forgiven us for our many and continued
yet we continue to find fault, bicker, and complain
about one another (8).
Worse, we refuse to forgive our enemies (3) and to pray
How in the world can there be peace when everyone wants to get in
the last word, the last punch or the last bomb? Even worse, we
seem to want to get in the first word, the first punch and the first
Praise God for sending you Miguel, and all the other Saints who
have lead the way.
Peace and Thanks be to God.
(1) Let us
awesome reality of Jesus Christ
(3) Jesus petitions Our Father
(4) And it came to pass, that the beggar died,
and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. And the rich man
also died: and he was buried in hell. [Luke 16:22]
(5) Who are the
institutional and personal transgressions
(8) By this shall all men know that you are my
disciples, if you have love one for another. [John 13:35]
From PY @ US -
on November 21st, 2007 [Mary's Presentation]
A Poem for you:
"Come, Lord, and tarry not,
the long-looked-for day;
why these years of waiting here,
ages of delay?
for Thy saints still wait;
ascends their cry:
Spirit and the Bride say, Come';
Thou not hear their cry?
for creation groans,
of Thy stay;
out with these long years of ill,
ages of delay.
for Thine Israel pines,
exile from Thy fold;
call to mind Thy faithful word,
bless them as of old.
for thy foes are strong;
taunting lips they say,
is the promised advent now,
where the dreaded day?'
for the good are few;
lift the voice in vain;
waxes fainter on the earth,
love is on the wane.
in Thy glorious might;
with Thine iron rod;
Thy foes before Thy face,
mighty Son of God.
and make all things new,
up this ruined earth;
our faded paradise,
and begin Thy reign
take the kingdom to Thyself,
King of Righteousness."
From RH @ US -
on November 17th, 2007 [Mary, Mother of Divine Providence]
In reference to your recent mailing "Various News Report of
God's Peace to all!
It's pathetic that this unnecessary waste of lives happen due to
reckless decision by a few.
I do pray for these men and women and their families afflicted by the
horrors of war, including others who suffered too peripherally.
That's why my prayers, too, are for the speedy return of Christ, of
course, according to His Will.
May He grant us a Green Apocalypse, soon.
Suicide Epidemic Among
Veterans - A CBS News Investigation
Uncovers A Suicide Rate For Veterans Twice That Of Other Americans
They are the casualties of
wars you don’t often hear
about - soldiers
who die of self-inflicted wounds. Little is known about the true scope
of suicides among those who have served in the military.
But a five-month CBS News investigation discovered data that shows a
startling rate of suicide, what some call a hidden epidemic, Chief
Investigative Reporter Armen Keteyian reports exclusively.
Is U.S. Gov't.
Secretly Testing Americans 'Again'?
Could a strange substance found by an
Ark-La-Tex man be part of secret government testing
the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "Chemtrails." In
KSLA News 12 investigation, Reporter Jeff Ferrell shows us the results
of testing we had done about what's in our skies.
There's already no shortage of unclassified
modification programs by the government. But those who fear
could be secret biological and chemical testing on the public point to
the 1977 U.S. Senate hearings which confirmed 239 populated areas had
been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969.
the 1994 Rockefeller Report concluded hundreds of thousands of military
personnel were also subjected to secret biological experiments over the
But could secret testing be underway yet again?
"I'd rather it be something inert and you know something that's not
causing any damage but I'd like to know what it is," concluded Nichols.
KSLA News 12 discovered chemtrails are even mentioned by name in
initial draft of HR 2977 back in 2001, under the Space
Act. But the military denies any such program exists.
out, until just nine years ago the government had the right, under
U.S. law, to conduct secret testing on the American public, under
specific conditions. Only a public outcry repealed part of that
with some "exceptions."
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From WO @ US -
on November 15th, 2007
As you recently again wrote: ....whatsoever things you have
spoken in darkness,
shall be published in the light: and that which you have spoken in the
ear in the chambers, shall be preached on the housetops. [Luke
have frequently stated: Even satan
must serve God!
I happily bring to you another example of almost earthshaking magnitude.
You may be well aware the Chicago Archbishop Francis Cardinal
George is the new head of the USCCB (1)
The following quotes are extracted from the above linked article:
1. "The cardinal defended the
archdiocese's record on responding
to victims. We have taken every single allegation of abuse and have
dealt with it,' he said"
2. "The archdiocese waited months to
remove an accused parish
priest in Chicago, the Rev. Daniel McCormack, who pleaded guilty to
sexually abusing five boys ages 8 to 12. George has acknowledged that
he failed to act soon enough in McCormack's case". (2)
3. "One of George's deputies, Chicago
Auxiliary Bishop Thomas
Paprocki, a civil and canon lawyer, recently told a Mass for
that "none other than the devil" was behind the abuse claims
against U.S. dioceses that have cost the church more than $2 billion
- as per an article in the Chicago Sun Times
cardinal also wrote that money was the motivation for
proposed state legislation that would allow adults who were abused by
priests as children to sue their perpetrators in cases where statutes
of limitation have expired."
"This is irresponsible, is not about
the safety of children as the
sponsor claims, and is clearly, to me at least, about money,"
Also we read in the Chicago Tribune: "Advocates for abuse
victims demonstrated outside the conference's hotel Monday and Tuesday,
urging bishops not to elect George. Critics say his failure to
immediately remove Rev. Daniel McCormack from his West Side parish in
2005, when credible accusations were made, is unacceptable. McCormack
pleaded guilty in July to molesting five boys and was sentenced to five
years in prison.
The election of Kicanas equally
disappointed them. With
numerous victims seeking compensation related to sex abuse in the
Tucson diocese, Kicanas sought bankruptcy protection for the diocese in
2004. Though the bankruptcy agreement established a trust to pay
victims, critics saw his action as a way to avoid accountability. A
former Chicago priest, Kicanas served as rector of Mundelein Seminary
in the 1980s and as an auxiliary bishop of Chicago from 1995 to 2001."
To add insult to injury, the aforementioned Chicago Aux. Bishop
Paprocki was elected Chairman of the Committee on
Canonical Affairs & Church Government!
And now for the fulfillment of
what you keep repeating as stated in the introduction of my letter
On November 13th at a noon press conference broadcast LIVE on
tv/satellite hookup, I was able to hear some very interesting things
George, Kicanis, plus Archbishop Kurz, Bishops Wenski, and Niederaur.
The conference concluded with a parting remark by Cardinal George, and
then...... presuming that the microphones were turned OFF, Wenski said
(very audibly) to George:
think we got away with it?"
I wish I had recorded this!
point of fact, George had PROMOTED McCormack
From RC @ US -
on November 13th, 2007
the weekend, I spent some time reading WSJ issues that I missed.
struck by your comment, "and are working from within to achieve it" in
the email below (1).
read an editorial in the WSJ by Alan Dershowitz (2),
the famed Harvard Law
School Professor, who is Jewish. He advocated torture for that
a million" case where a captured terrorist has information and you know
he has information about an impending disaster which will cost millions
of lives. Bill and Hillary Clinton support this idea.
that "some decent people" in the French Resistance succumbed to torture
by the Nazis and gave up the locations of friends and families who were
is the irony of it all. A noted Jew in America is telling us in
WSJ that we should use torture because the Nazis did and it worked.
is no doubt that God gave the world America to do good things.
However, slowly but surely, America has become the cliché:
distinction without a difference." A lot has changed here since
you left in 1990, Miguel.
have watched it first hand and would not have believed it, if I had not
you point out, the ONLY solution is to pray to God for His
human institutions are worthless. Ditto for our "leaders."
and Best Wishes!
(1) The e-mail referred to follows:
as the United
States of America may be - people and government - if it had not been
for "America" -
as many call the U.S. - Hitler would have been
proclaimed god and would have proceeded to "purify" the rest of the
planet of its "undesirables" using his well developed "Final Solution"
precisely why the US "must be
taken out" (Step No. 1 of the Sequence
of Events) by its enemies - as we have
"They" are coming to finish up what they
started in World War II and are working from within to achieve it.
For more details and concrete reasons to
pray, please review:
Defense of the United States of America - The
"División Azul" (Blue Division) made up of
"volunteers" sponsored by Franco and mainly fighting in the Russian
This IS NOT a
partisan issue - is an
issue of life and death.
URL for the Wall Street Journal article
@ US -
on November 8th, 2007
Christ be with you!
I was considering writing to you about Billy
Graham in a different context, and then I happened to read what you
wrote and quoted (*) !
Billy Graham is actually an ordained minister of the Presbyterian
Church (!), and is a 33 Degree Freemason & member of the Scottish
Rite (which requires degree status above the 30th) of the Southern
Jurisdiction, which has its HQ in Charleston, SC. That town has long
been known as an occult center; additionally, that Lodge HQ has been
referred to as the "Mother Lodge of the World". The motto of the
Scottish Rite is: "Ordo ab Chao" .......(order out of
chaos), which would seem to be the general theme of the
persons/organizations which facilitate the NWO.
Interestingly, several other very high profile US "Christian
ministers" are also 33 Masons:
1. Norman Vincent Peale (deceased
Church) pastor for over 50 years of Marble Collegiate Church in NYC and
author of 'The Power of Positive Thinking".
2. Robert Schuller (Dutch
Reformed/Collegiate Church). Well known
TV preacher and pastor of the Garden Grove Community Church (Crystal
Cathedral) in California.
3. Jesse Jackson (Baptist?). Long time
political activist. Prince Hall (Black) 33 degree Mason.
4. Al Sharpton (ordained by????) Long
time political activist,
Prince Hall Mason, and known former FBI informant on civil rights/black
activism (as per NY Daily News article c.1986).
There are others, but these are the most well known to TV viewers.
Graham also has a long history of close and overt cooperation with
various US "Catholic" Bishops, dioceses, EWTN notables (i.e. Rev.
Benedict Groeschel) - who have engineered the bussing of parishioners
and school children to Graham's arena rallies in several US cities.
So aside from the curious connection with several US presidents,
Graham and "ministers" of his ilk only know and use Christ as a form
of "brand recognition" ......much like a corporate trademark, to lure
in the unwary.
You remain in my daily prayers.
(*) The referred to
Fair is fair and not all spiritually deviant "Christian"
Religion Administrators are of Roman Catholic Persuasion as the
following report clearly attests to.
From our November 2005 pending Files....
From IC @
on November 5th, 2007
a piquant contrast in
press coverage across the decades of Billy Graham's various private
dealings with Nixon, as displayed on the tapes gradually released from
the National Archive or disclosed from Nixon's papers. I'll come
shortly to the recent flap over Graham and Nixon's closet palaverings
about the Jews, but first let's visit another interaction between the
great evangelist and his commander in chief Back in April, l989 a
Graham memo to Nixon was made public. It took the form of a
secret letter from Graham, dated April 15, 1969, drafted after Graham
met in Bangkok with missionaries from Vietnam. These men of God said
that if the peace talks in Paris were to fail, Nixon should step up the
war and bomb the dikes. Such an act, Graham wrote excitedly, "could
overnight destroy the economy of North Vietnam".
Graham lent his imprimatur to
recommendation. Thus the preacher was advocating a policy to the US
Commander in Chief that on Nixon's own estimate would have killed a
million people. The German high commissioner in occupied
Holland, Seyss-Inquart, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg for
breaching dikes in Holland in World War Two. (His execution did not
deter the USAF from destroying the Toksan dam in North Korea, in 1953,
thus deliberately wrecking the system that irrigated 75 per cent of
North Korea's rice farms.)
This disclosure of Graham as
aspirant war criminal did not excite any commotion when it became
public in 1989, twenty years after it was written. I recall
finding a small story in the Syracuse Herald-Journal. No one thought to
chide Graham or even question him on the matter."
<>Full Article at: When
Billy Graham Planned to Kill One Million People
In reference to article (*) that you shared....
May the Lord have mercy on us all then!
I for one, cannot see how
I can be gainfully employed after such a financial
experienced destitution to some degree before (utilities disconnected
due to non-payment, dropping out of college because our
afford it, having no idea where to get our next
meal, had our house not
been paid for we would be out on the street...), I can only hope that
somehow my children be spared that fate.
But then again, we are living in the End Times.
Pray for me brethren, that God may guide me according to His
Yours in Christ.
(*) Article in question:
July 20, 2007
From RH @
on November 1st, 2007 [All Saints Day]
High and Low Finance - New York Times
Market Shock: AAA Rating May Be Junk
By FLOYD NORRIS
The great stock market rally of 2002 through 2007 has been built
on liquidity — and much of the liquidity has been based on financial
engineering that allowed highly risky investments to be financed by
investors who thought they were taking no risks.
They were wrong.
Now the question is whether the market can continue rising as
investors learn that the financial innovations that helped to build the
boom were constructed on sand.
When Bear Stearns admitted this week that two hedge funds were
expected to lose, in round numbers, 100 percent of their value, it
blamed “unprecedented declines in the valuations of a number of highly
rated (AA and AAA) securities.”
Those securities were nothing like the bonds issued by companies
with triple-A or double-A ratings. Such bonds almost never plunge in
value because the companies borrowing the money are financially solid.
But the money invested by the hedge funds went to finance
mortgage loans to subprime customers, borrowers as close to being a
triple-A credit as Moscow is to Maui as a beach resort.
By the magic of securitization, sow’s ears could become silk
purses, or at least look like them. Most subprime mortgages would never
default, went the theory, and rising home prices would minimize losses
when there were defaults. So if a security was protected from the first
10 or 20 percent of losses in a mortgage portfolio, then it was as safe
as a loan to General Electric. Such securities got AAA ratings.
Full article at:
Peace to All!
Regarding your recent mailing (1)
about the Saudi King remarks regarding terrorism....
about the appropriate authorities not acting on these intelligence
leads warning on impending terror
attacks? Of course not.
Letting terror attacks happen will justify
the establishment of a dictatorial, despotic One World Government not
referred to mailing....
Quote from News Report:
The M+G+R Foundation Comments:
Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah said Britain failed to act on
from his country which may have stopped the London bombings, before
arriving here Monday for a controversial state visit.
The king -- the first Saudi monarch to make a state visit to
20 years -- accused London and other nations of failing to take
terrorism seriously enough.
Asked about the terrorist threat in an interview broadcast hours
his arrival, he told the BBC through an interpreter: "I believe most
countries are not taking this issue too seriously including,
unfortunately, Great Britain.
"We have sent information to Great Britain before the terrorist
in Britain but unfortunately no action was taken. And it may have been
able to maybe avert the tragedy."
Isn't it interesting that the
British government is being
vehemently accused of the same thing that the US government was accused
in reference to the 9-11 events?
Isn't it interesting that the "Bopsie Twins" of the War on Terror is
the US and the UK?
King Abdullah said: "I believe most
countries are not taking this issue too seriously including,
unfortunately, Great Britain."
Would be illogical to think that without an enemy we could not have a
Would it not be logical to think that if we had a real threat (*)
we would take "this issue" a bit more seriously?
It must be that the incense burning at the foot of the Tabernacle,
where we spend much time, is beginning to affect our logic.... or is it?
Real threat is defined as a threat completely out of
our reach and control, and not a threat as defined by CNN and Sky News.
Full News Report:
From RC @
on October 30th, 2007
At your request, I have reviewed the History Channel program aired
recently about "The Lost Book of Nostradamus".
Briefly, the "lost" book is alleged to have been presented by N
to a cardinal at the Vatican where it stayed under wraps for
years. Later it was purchased by the Italian National Library
from someone else but the author was claimed to be N. It was
recently "found" by an Italian author who was apparently perusing the
The book is a collection of 80 watercolor plates which depict many of
the quatrains. They are not bound together but in a portfolio
which apparently was typical for the times.
Most important, the plates depict what "experts" contend is the
apocalypse. The images are all loaded with symbolism so one can
read into many what one wants. Basically the images are all bad
news for the Church with representations of the Pope in various degrees
of distress or danger and many representations of the AntiChrist.
Interestingly, this program addresses one of the criticisms featured on
the preceding program (also recorded) which is, "Why can't you N experts predict something
rather than telling us after the fact?
" To wit, where were
those experts on Sept. 10, 2001?
Thus, there is a mad dash, if not frenzy, to figure out what is going
to happen next.
The climax is that it will all end when certain celestial events
occur. These events only happen once every 13,000 years and are
due again between 1992-2012.
Yes that 2012 number, again. (2)
The program admits that the book is not an original by N, but rather
recopied. The program insists that it must be important since it
was kept and recopied over the years.
I believe that the book importance and relevance was stated at
TIMES, thus there must be a reason this book came to light now.
The basic problem with this kind of programming is that it gives people
a fatal diagnosis without any hope of cure. Worse, it trivializes
the events since there is a GAME for people to play in which one
makes predictions using quatrains. I agree that seers can and do
see, but they are not doing God's Will. It is fair to say that a
prophet of God will announce that he is a prophet of God and act like
one, with wisdom, patience, courage, charity and humility.
One can tell God's Messengers by what they say and do.
This program feeds into the Jonah syndrome. As you know, it
wasn't easy to get Jonah to deliver the message to Ninevah, but once he
did, he actually looked forward to having Ninevah destroyed.
Shame on him!
If we learn anything from this program: it is
1. do not trust anything touched by the
2. people are most driven by fear, greed comes in second; (3)
3. God provides warnings (4),
but also hope that if we do the right thing, we can stay His Hand or
mitigate the damage (5).
As Our Blessed Mother said, Pray, Pray, and Pray some more.
One can never Pray too much!
About Nostradamus' source
(2) About the
- always catches man's attention
of the Sun at Fatima, Upcoming Warning
and A Personal Warning
Indeed it is in our hands
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