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Communications Published on March 2009

From MD @ EU - USA -
Published March 31st, 2009

It is interesting how the Benedict XVI functions...

According to the news report (1): "Ever since he apparently misspoke about the excommunication of Mexican lawmakers on a trip to Brazil in 2007, the Vatican asks reporters to submit questions in advance and then makes a selection, giving Benedict time to prepare a response."

Considering that Jesus clearly instructed his followers to do just the opposite through Luke chapter 12, verses 11 and 12:

11 "When they take you before synagogues and magistrates and authorities, do not worry about how to defend yourselves or what to say, 12 because when the time comes, the Holy Spirit will teach you what you should say."

Apparently, either the Benedict XVI is not familiar with these verses (unlikely), or he is counting on reporters (and perhaps Catholics) not being familiar with them.

Maybe this new tactic in dealing with reporters is a sort of "popemobile" (2) intended to protect him from bullets of another kind.

Thanks, as always!

(1) News Report
(2) The Popemobile

From m de P @ EU - USA - Published March 28th, 2009

Using one single letter, we answered several communications from a long term friend of The M+G+R Foundation. Since the answer contains Spiritual Direction of universal interest we have chosen to reprint it here.

May the Peace of God be upon you!

In the midst of several personal pressig issues and resolving the technical/security difficulties (computer related) that we must deal with at this time - issues that must be handled in spite of the discharging our liturgical and other functions, we take a moment to, if you so allow it, set your soul to rest.

1. The gravest sin man can commit is but a grain of sand compared to the Oceans of His Mercy. A contrite heart and sincere intention to avoid it in the future, are the two keys which automatically release His Mercy and forgiveness. However, if an individual believes that his/her sins are so great that cannot be forgiven even by God, then, indeed, there is nothing that He can do.

2. That there is a problem with Maria de Agreda (1) does not mean that there is a problem with Divine induced bilocations. There have been a few souls to whom God has granted such gift. Padre Pio and Teresa de Jesus are two examples - both of them, our close friends. In addition, remember that poison is usually mixed with sweets so that people do not realized that they are being spiritually poisoned. Logically, there will be some very correct things in Agreda's book just as there are in the New Age Movement as can be read in Lee's document published in our pages. (2)

3. Your persistent feeling of guilt - as exemplified through much of your correspondence of late - should give you the clue where its source lies. As we have explained in many different places: Salutary guilt is great, and from God, since it helps the soul keep in the right path; Persistent and unrelenting guilt is from satan trying to bring a soul to the doors of despair. That is one of his standard tricks when he realizes that he is just about to lose the last little grip he had on a soul; it is at this point where he brings out the heavy artillery. Once recognized and exposed, it loses its grip.

We pray that you understand that we must now set aside the dealings with these issues, as important as they may be, so that whatever little time we have available can be devoted to the other hundred of thousands of souls who read our pages and to whom, as you know and demonstrated thorough your solicitous help, we also owe attention.

You may be assured of the prayers that you have requested.

May God continue to Bless you and your loved ones.

m de P
(1) Warning about The Lady in Blue
(2) About New Age and its dangers

From WS @ USA - Published March 25th, 2009 [Feast of the Annunciation]

I saw on the nightly news yesterday that Russia and China are arguing for a new form of currency to replace the American dollar in international trading. Of course the President rejected that out of hand at his March 24th press conference. The two reasons that the United States is still the only prominent power in the world are:

1. Most of the world's oil is bought and sold in American dollars.

2. The United States Navy's Nuclear Submarines are out there undetected.

Financial power and Military Power. All else is moot. World financial crisis will be the logical cause for the US losing hegemony. The Achilles Heel is financial. Once the wherewithal is taken, it is a done deal. The phrase "money is the sinew of war" will come true and the US will fall fast.

I believe that Obama as president is a "tender mercy" from God the Father. This short time may give many a final chance to hear what must be heard.


From NP @ USA - Published March 22nd, 2009

Dear Miguel of Portugal,

A word of thanks seems appropriate. I had rejected all things Marian at approximately the turn of the century while continuing to adhere closely to the Lord through study of the Scriptures. Now I sense a calling, or a wish for a calling from Mary, and have been reading The Miracle Detective by Randall Sullivan, an excellent, well-researched, factual and sympathetic account of the Medjugorje apparitions and the author's own conversion. On pg. 374 the author recounts that on the return flight home from his second trip to Medjugorje, he was "...seated next to a jeweler from Philadelphia who offered me a lesson in how to buy pearls. 'The most important thing to remember,' he said, 'is that you get what you pay for.'"

Immersed in Scripture as I have been, that struck a chord. The pearl of great price, I mused. You must sell everything to get it! Within an hour or two I was searching Google for "Marian warnings" (1) and found your site (2). You talked of the invoice we'll be getting. I read for hours, going from link to link within your site, wherever it led me.

What I thank you from the bottom of my heart for is the Pearl of Divine Wisdom you recount from Our Lady's Fatima messages. Not to seek mortification, but simply to accept what comes our way from day to day and offer up. (3) This apparently is advice I'm going to need.

Thanks, and God bless you,

(1) The World has been amply warned
(2) It is for the NP's of the world - those who have not found us yet - that God Wills that these documents remain on line
(3) Redemptive Suffering and The "other" Secret of Fatima

From KT @ Philippines - Published on March 19th, 2009 [Feast of St. Joseph]












A. Thank your for writing and sharing your concerns with us.

We also believe, and have frequently said, that the "End does not justify the means", however, we must evaluate each individual situation with the Light of the Holy Spirit to see how we should get from point "A" (living outside the Law of God) to point "B" (living within the Law of God).

The first step is to determine the "Why" of the point "A" and its consequences - short term and long term.

We shall take first the killing of another human being as a point "A" - this is extremely grave under any circumstances : There is no just war; there is no just killing. Logically, point "B" is the stopping of the killing of human beings.

Say that we have an individual who is prone to kill other humans due to X,Y and Z reasons and does so on a regular basis. Maybe he does not know that "Thou shalt not kill" is a real and absolute Divine Law. Obviously he needs to be instructed in Divine Law and needs to be assisted in his conversion - however, in the meantime, he cannot be allowed to go around killing people until "the Evangelization" takes a hold of his soul. He must be stopped for the benefit of others and himself.

Now, let us take up birth control as another point "A" situation. What is the root problem of artificial birth control? Sexual interaction without responsibility becomes just another sport - where one may even switch partners just as we may do for a tennis match. The more uneducated the individual is and the less means of entertainment he/she may have, the more he/she will turn to sex and/or drugs as an "entertaining sport". The more bored a rich and well educated individual gets, the more he/she will also turn to sex and/or drugs as an "entertaining sport".

Promiscuous sex and the use of drugs are the two societal maladies which can harm a soul the most. Thus, logically God has allowed AIDS. He is more interested in our soul within the overall Eternal picture, than just the brief time it resides in a body on Earth. If some activity is going to gravely harm the soul - He rather take them home soon. (1)

In the birth control situation - We could then take two positions: (a) Let them destroy themselves and thus "help God"; or (b) Intervene and help them find the way to God in a more natural way.

If we take position (a), it would logically follows, to the derange minds, that all sick and poor people should be exterminated.... and " doing this we are doing them a favor and serving God along." (believe it or not, that thinking is "on the table" of the Future Masters of the world.)

If we take position (b), we assist them in not killing each other, through unprotected sexual intercourse, by providing them with the appropriate protection WHILE simultaneously Evangelizing them so that they will abandon the "Outside the Laws of God" lifestyle, i.e. "Sexual activity is a sport."

In certain countries of Europe they established a "Clean Syringe Program" wherein the drug addicts would turn in their used syringes and get clean ones in ordered to arrest the spread of AIDS through sharing infected syringes. This was done WITHOUT any Evangelization, therefore, what on the surface looked like a very charitable act was indeed contributing to the further degradation of their souls.

This would be the same if we just pass out condoms and do nothing else.

In conclusion:

(a) Passing out condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS via sexual intercourse - and do nothing else - to save lives cannot be considered as a "means justified by the end" - because we are working against God by helping in the destruction of souls.

(b) Passing out condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS via sexual intercourse - and implement a solid Evangelization program to change the mentality of the individuals through Light and Grace - is a method of "buying time" while the leaven of the kingdom of heaven works its wonders in their souls - thus we are cooperating with God' plan for His children. [The kingdom of heaven is like to leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, until the whole was leavened. [Matthew 13:33]]

Of course, this thinking could degenerate into a philosophical discussion about the difference or equivalence of murdering/killing with a gun, for example, and killing with an AIDS contaminated sexual liaison. However, we must keep in mind that: Death by gunshot is quick and little can be done to draw the soul to God before separation of soul and body. Death through AIDS is slow and much can be done to draw that soul to God before its separation. Therefore - we cannot compare, nor treat alike, both methods of killing a body.

Your other questions have been answered in different documents in our pages (2).

Regarding what "does not convince a non believer" is completely outside the responsibility of the Elect. We are to take a horse to water, drink of it so that the horse sees that it quenches our thirst with no ill effects; then, if the horse still refuses to drink, we must allow the horse to die of thirst. The Elect never were nor will ever be part of the Inquisition crowd. Their technique would have been "choking the horse to death" while force feeding him water to "keep him alive".

Yes, that is how ridiculous and pathetic the alleged Evangelization has been in the last ca. 1600 years.... and stay tuned, as we have already explained, it will be tried again. (3)

(1) The near Apocalyptic Climatic and Geological Events Worldwide
(2) Pain is the megaphone.... , Divine Mercy in Action - Part I and Part II
(3) The striking similarity of the French Revolution with the activities "scheduled" for End of These Times

From IC @ Philippines - Published on March 14th, 2009


It seems that "Obama is America's No. 1 hero, not Jesus" (1)

Evidently the schedule is still on track. Even considering the survey's relatively small sample size and the fact that it wasn't meant to be a "professional" survey, the results are still rather disheartening, if not unsurprising.

Yours in Christ.


(1) News Report

From God @ Everywhere (1) - Published on March 10th, 2009 [Feast of Purim (Defeat of plot to destroy the Jews of Persia)]

Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom, give ear to the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrha.

To what purpose do you offer me the multitude Masses and other prayers and devotions? (3) When you came to appear before me, who required these things at your hands, that you should walk in my courts? Offer sacrifice no more in vain: incense is an abomination to me. Today's equivalent of the new moons, and the sabbaths, and other festivals I will not abide, your assemblies are wicked. My soul hateth your offerings, and your solemnities: they are become troublesome to me, I am weary of bearing them. And when you stretch forth your hands, I will turn away my eyes from you: and when you multiply prayer, I will not hear: for your hands are full of blood.

Wash yourselves, be clean, take away the evil of your devices from my eyes: cease to do perversely. Learn to do well: seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge for the fatherless, defend the widow. And then come, and accuse me, saith the Lord: if your sins be as scarlet, they shall be made as white as snow: and if they be red as crimson, they shall be white as wool. If you be willing, and will hearken to me, you shall eat the good things of the land. But if you will not, and will provoke me to wrath: the sword shall devour you because the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

(1) Very, very lightly paraphrasing Isaiah 1: 10-20
(2) No, He is not referring to the rulers and people of some distant planet - He is addressing all the residents and leaders of this planet Earth.
(3) In Isaiah's time it read: ...of your victims, saith the Lord? I am full, I desire not holocausts of rams, and fat of fatlings, and blood of calves, and lambs, and buck goats.

From JM @ USA - Published on March 8th, 2009

In reference to what appears to be the preference of offering communion at Mass mostly from hosts which are in reserve in the Tabernacle...

I was drawn to a document called "Liturgical Norms Of the Diocese of Charlotte" and as I read the document I was surprised to learn the following:

General Norms (bold script is original, not my highlights)

12. Planning for the Mass should include providing for a sufficient number of hosts to be consecrated so that all can receive hosts consecrated during that Mass, underlining the connection between consecration and communion. Generally, reserved hosts should not be brought from the tabernacle unless needed at a particular Mass. (1)

This addresses the issue but works around the central question of the consecrated status of the 'reserved hosts'...

If hosts are to be consecrated during the Sacrifice of the Mass wherein they are to be consumed, why so many "reserved hosts'? (2) Have they been consecrated at some previous Mass? Shouldn't by now any Parish could make informed and practical estimates on how many would be needed at a particular Mass and thus avoid the "unless needed" and confusing issue of bringing out and offering unconsecrated hosts?

(1) An example from the Diocese of Venice
These hosts are reserved primarily for the sick and for those who could not be present at the Mass.

From RC @ USA - Published on March 5th, 2009

You showed great wisdom in citing "satan's board meeting." (1)

It is not overt evil that is the problem, it is the lack of charity in all things. The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference.

As creatures of God, many of us are simply indifferent to the wonders of God.

It is impossible to contemplate God if we spend all of our time and energy pursuing the "disposables" of this world while ignoring the eternal treasure of God.

What will it take to get our attention? (A rhetorical question.)

(1) Minutes of satan's Board Meeting


Satan called a worldwide convention of demons. In his opening address he said, "We can't keep Christians from going to church." "We can't keep them from reading their Bibles and knowing the truth." "We can't even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with their Savior." Once they gain that connection with Jesus, our power over them is broken." "So let them go to their churches; let them have their covered dish dinners, BUT steal their time, so they don't have time to develop a relationship with Jesus Christ."

"This is what I want you to do," said the devil: "Distract them from gaining hold of their Savior and maintaining that vital connection throughout their day!"

"How shall we do this?" his demons shouted.

"Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable schemes to occupy their minds," he answered. "Tempt them to spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow." "Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the husbands to work 6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, so they can afford their empty lifestyles." "Keep them from spending time with their children." "As their families fragment, soon, their homes will offer no escape from the pressures of work!" "Over-stimulate their minds so they cannot hear that still, small voice."

"Entice them to play the radio or cassette player whenever they drive and to keep the TV, VCR, CDs and their PCs going constantly in their home and see to it that every store and restaurant in the world plays non-biblical music constantly." "This will jam their minds and break that union with Christ." "Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers." "Pound their minds with the news 24 hours a day." "Invade their driving moments with billboards." "Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order catalogs, sweepstakes, and every kind of newsletter and promotional offering free products, services and false hopes."

"Keep skinny, beautiful models on the magazines and TV so their husbands will believe that outward beauty is what's important, and they'll become dissatisfied with their wives. " "Keep the wives too tired to love their husbands at night." "Give them headaches too!" "If they don't give their husbands the love they need, they will begin to look elsewhere." "That will fragment their families quickly!" "Give them Santa Claus to distract them from teaching their children the real meaning of Christmas." "Give them an Easter bunny so they won't talk about his resurrection and power over sin and death." "Even in their recreation, let them be excessive." "Have them return from their recreation exhausted." "Keep them too busy to go out in nature and reflect on God's creation. " "Send them to amusement parks, sporting events, plays, concerts, and movies instead."

"Keep them busy, busy, busy!" "And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip and small talk so they leave with troubled consciences." "Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek power from Jesus." "Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their health and family for the good of the cause." "It will work!" "It will work!"

It was quite a plan! The demons went eagerly to their assignments causing Christians everywhere to get busier and more rushed, going here and there. Having little time for their God or their families. Having no time to tell others about the power of Jesus to change lives.

As even the casual observer can see, satan's strategy worked better than he ever imagined because, as we "advance" technologically, the results he yearned for increase exponentially.

(2) Step No. 1

From (Mr.) IW @ USA - Posted on March 1, 2009

I have been experiencing a tsunami of mail from Scientology in the past three months.

In an ill-advised moment of weakness more than thirty years ago, I went through what is best described as mind-gaming with a gulag garnish. I was in Scientology for about a year and disconnected.

I have been harassed over the phone despite repeated attempts to get the calls and mailings to stop. The literature talks about now as the one chance in millennia to save the planet.

I just wanted you to know of what's afoot. (1)

These people pawn themselves off as a religion and practice none but adoration of greed and slave-making.

God is not mocked, in Him there is no stain.

(Mr.) IW
(1) In the name of all our visitors and readers: Thank you!

From Staff - BishopAccountability.Org (1) - Published on February 25th, 2009 [Ash Wednesday]

The Monitor | Cardinal Egan, Crisis-Denier | February 25, 2009

This week the Vatican announced its replacement for the retiring Cardinal Egan of the New York archdiocese. Before Egan steps down, let's look at his most dangerous legacy -- his unique success among major US bishops in suppressing information about clergy sexual abuse.
In 2002, leaked files from the Bridgeport CT diocese revealed that Egan had engineered a sexual abuse disaster while he was Bridgeport bishop from 1988 to 2000. In New York, however, Egan has been able to keep a lid on embarrassing information. Under his watch, the archdiocese has not had to make public any internal abuse documents. Small wonder that in a 2007 interview, Egan pronounced his NY tenure a "colossal success," declaring, "I wanted peace in my diocese, and it's peaceful."

Egan under-reported in 2004 when the US bishops released counts of accused priests. In 2004, Egan reported a mere 49 NY priests accused from 1950 to 2002, or 1.3% of total NY priests. The difference between NY and other dioceses is stark:

1.3% - New York NY
4.9% - Los Angeles
5.7% - Cleveland (grand jury counted 145 accused priests out of 2515 total)
5.9% - Cincinnati
6.3% - Manchester NH
7.0% - Boston
7.6% - Philadelphia (grand jury counted 169 accused priests out of 2204 total)
9.6% - Covington KY

According to the US Conference of Catholic Bishops' cumulative accused priest total through 2007, 4.9% of all US priests have been accused of molesting children. If the NY archdiocese's problem were merely average, its secret archives would contain allegations against 185 priests, not 49, as claimed by Egan.

In other words, Egan implied that NY's abuse problem was one-fourth the national average. Why hasn't his preposterous claim been challenged?

The answer is simple: Unlike every other major diocese, the NY archdiocese has not been forced to make public disclosures. Not one NY archdiocesan abuse document has been made public. Neither have any depositions of archdiocesan officials. Why not?

  1. Victims have been almost completely unable to bring civil action against the NY archdiocese: New York State's civil statute of limitations for child sex crimes is perhaps the most victim-hostile statute in the country. To bring civil charges against the institution that mismanaged his abuser, a victim almost always has only three years from the occurrence of the crime or his 18th birthday . Worse, the NY statute of limitations is almost never "tolled," or waived, as it is in many other states, for reasons such as victim's delayed realization of harm or fraudulent concealment by the institution.
  2. The failure of District Attorneys: Unlike public prosecutors in Long Island NY, Massachusetts, NH, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia, metro NY District Attorneys chose not to force public disclosure from the archdiocese. In 2002, when media attention was strong, long-time Manhattan DA Robert Morgenthau issued a couple of statements but did not call a grand jury investigation. In Westchester County, DA Jeanine Pirro did convene a grand jury, but the scope of the investigation was modest -- only eight victims were interviewed -- and strangely, the report issued by Pirro was denomination-neutral. It did not contain the words "archdiocese," "Catholic," "archbishop," or "priest." The report triggered little public reaction.

What makes us think Egan would cover up the sexual abuse of children?

Two reasons: 1) Egan was a Dallas-denier, openly hostile to the National Review Board and obstructive of the John Jay self-survey process; 2) Worse, he was a crisis-denier. As bishop of Bridgeport, he re-assigned priests with multiple allegations and expressed skepticism that victims told the truth.

As Edward Egan fades into retirement, the public may yet learn of his concealment of abusers.

Newspapers may win a still-active case in CT to force the release of 12,000 pages of Bridgeport abuse documents, including personnel files of 5 to 6 alleged abusers who were handled by Egan. The documents will be damaging to Egan. If released, they may finally spur NY public prosecutors to investigate Egan's handling of accused priests in NY.

And there's at least one more reason for hope. Advocates of child sexual abuse victims may succeed this year in reforming NY's predator-friendly civil SOL. The new bill would retroactively eliminate the civil statutes of limitation for one year. Victims finally would be able to take civil action against institutions that mismanaged the abusers. Names of NY abusive clerics would become public. Possibly, archdiocesan documents would be made public, too.

Anne Barrett Doyle
(1) | Documenting the Abuse Crisis in the Roman Catholic Church

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